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Original: 1/9/2006 5:48 AM
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Monday, January 09, 2006

 Not sleeping much tonight so I decided to post a bit. I've had this quote in my facebook profile for a while and I've been meaning to expound on it:

"Of course, if salvation was an end in and of itself--and you believe in Jesus Christ as God--why in the world would his death and resurrection happen at such a temporal distance from his second coming. I mean, why not just die, save humanity from their sins, and end the world, if that's all there is to salvation anyway? Believing in salvation as an ends rather than as means to an end puts one in the position of loving an awful jackass of a God, now doesn't it?"
-Brandon, http://www.badchristian.com

I've been thinking about evangelism and I want some genuine feedback

The great commission states that we are to make disciples. This commission is usually used to justify churches being driven by the number of attendees which we all know is basically wrong. Why are we taught to view people as targets of conversion? but we aren't called to make believers we are called to disciple them

I don't want to view people as targets. I want to build relationships. I want to disciple everyone I come into contact with. I think honesty in your faith is the easiest way to bring people to repentance. I'm sick of the church trying to spew apologetic rhetoric and trying to be political. the church will risk anything for their stance on prolife and being antievolution but I don't see anyone with signs saying "God loves homosexuals, he is redeeming ALL of creation!" no one takes a stand for love, no one takes a stand for fellowship.

I want to take a stand for love and fellowship. More specifically I want to love and invest into people and be in fellowship. I think at least some of us have this fear of dying alone and sad... why can't we encourage and help eachother in that

it's funny because I'll answer any direct questions but I won't willingly divulge information without the questions.  I assume I have that in common with other people. let's ask eachother questions. I want to put myself on the spot but not here, not online. I don't think anything is more ironic than trying to think out and solve total loneliness through the emotional safety of my computer.
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I think what peopel don't understand, or maybe i've just learned myself, is that evangelism isn't about targeting a believer, as you have said it wasn't, rather its about boasting about what Christ has done. Case for Paul as a religious leader showed how christ changed him and his religious chargin, whereas for a musician it would be through his music, or with me my ideas in economics and how christ moves through them and affects them. I think thats what Paul was getting to by boasting about Christ.
Posted 1/11/2006 4:32 AM by lifebeforelife - reply

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Hey, Frank. This is Susan Sendt (Molly's mom) from 2nd. It has been a LONG time since we talked or should I say our paths have crossed. I have been reading some of your posts and I am so proud of the man you are becoming. I always knew there was something special about you! Keep your eyes on God and He will direct your paths!
Posted 1/11/2006 2:20 PM by mamasendt - reply


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